Comments on: Missional Communities: A Useful, Modern Concept! http://themourningdovecaws.com/2009/09/22/missional-communities-a-useful-modern-concept/ Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:25:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Cristi http://themourningdovecaws.com/2009/09/22/missional-communities-a-useful-modern-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Cristi Thu, 17 Dec 2009 22:52:39 +0000 http://themourningdovecaws.com/?p=293#comment-153 Hmm, I'm guesing you might be refering to Rick Warren's popularizing of "Purpose Driven". I just haven't heard of critics that are still demonstrating/suggesting faithfullness to the mission call. The only critique I read centered around the employment of "business concepts" and personal attacks. Sounds more like envy of the success God gave Saddleback. Nevertheless, the fruits of this work are evident in the impact it's had outside the church, like no other Christian publication I know this century (or last one). And those 5 purposes are so simply communicated, I can't think of any orthodox Christian rejecting them. Just wondering: was his other book, "Purpose Driven Church" more easily accepted by the church? Hmm, I’m guesing you might be refering to Rick Warren’s popularizing of “Purpose Driven”. I just haven’t heard of critics that are still demonstrating/suggesting faithfullness to the mission call. The only critique I read centered around the employment of “business concepts” and personal attacks. Sounds more like envy of the success God gave Saddleback.

Nevertheless, the fruits of this work are evident in the impact it’s had outside the church, like no other Christian publication I know this century (or last one). And those 5 purposes are so simply communicated, I can’t think of any orthodox Christian rejecting them. Just wondering: was his other book, “Purpose Driven Church” more easily accepted by the church?

]]> By: Andrew Dragos http://themourningdovecaws.com/2009/09/22/missional-communities-a-useful-modern-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-152 Andrew Dragos Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:51:58 +0000 http://themourningdovecaws.com/?p=293#comment-152 Yes, it was missional activity (though the word itself is nowhere). As it was also <i>purpose-driven</i> activity. This is an example of them aligning themselves with the <i>purposes</i> of God (see Ephesians for numerous use of that word). My point is that we have adopted, starting from the 90s, this new word to be what we want our churches to be characterized by. And for some reason, when another word is used (such as purpose) to communicate the same truth, those who don't like a certain figure or church model/strategy refuse to accept it. Yes, it was missional activity (though the word itself is nowhere). As it was also purpose-driven activity. This is an example of them aligning themselves with the purposes of God (see Ephesians for numerous use of that word). My point is that we have adopted, starting from the 90s, this new word to be what we want our churches to be characterized by. And for some reason, when another word is used (such as purpose) to communicate the same truth, those who don’t like a certain figure or church model/strategy refuse to accept it.

]]> By: Cristi http://themourningdovecaws.com/2009/09/22/missional-communities-a-useful-modern-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Cristi Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:13:28 +0000 http://themourningdovecaws.com/?p=293#comment-151 I don't quite see this. Could you elablorate with examples? Last phrase is rather strong / with implications... "Finally, let’s ‘fess up and recognize that some people have an unfair stigma toward labels like “purpose-driven,” but all too readily accept other labels like missional. This demonstrates pure hypocrisy." Wasn't this a missional lifestyle described in the Bible?... Acts 11: 19Now those who had been scattered by the persecution in connection with Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, telling the message only to Jews. 20Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus. 21The Lord's hand was with them, and a great number of people believed and turned to the Lord. I don’t quite see this. Could you elablorate with examples? Last phrase is rather strong / with implications…

“Finally, let’s ‘fess up and recognize that some people have an unfair stigma toward labels like “purpose-driven,” but all too readily accept other labels like missional. This demonstrates pure hypocrisy.”

Wasn’t this a missional lifestyle described in the Bible?…
Acts 11:
19Now those who had been scattered by the persecution in connection with Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, telling the message only to Jews. 20Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus. 21The Lord’s hand was with them, and a great number of people believed and turned to the Lord.

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